Design Help

[Chunkie]

I'm basically there but it doesn't pop for me - any ideas anyone please?

[Wayne]

-No design to see me old mate!???

[Chunkie]

There now - sorry buddy.

It's a job I ant to be creative with rather than just bread and butter. He's not got creative money but I wanna do it all the same.

[Wayne]

Too Busy as a logo mate- Loose the bird and the trees and that stripey sky is at conflict with the stripey ( and very vital)lawn sum how..maybe if they were the same radiating pattern???

. the red banner is the main sell of the piece ( as far as info goes)- I'd make this more key

[paulp]

Got to agree with wayne, the two set of stripes compete for attention. loose the top set and put in a mid blue down to light blue blend sky with a few fluffy clouds (but not too strong) like the red banner but not with black text and make it bigger. I dont mind the trees but know where wayne is coming from on this, it does take away from the oval logo (or is that the intention) Hey OMHO I assume this is to be printed?

[Chunkie]

I was going to do it cut paul just because I can but a fade is possible with the airbush.

The trees were to stop this just being yet another sticker on yet another van.

I take the point on the stripes. Maybe the faded sky would be best.

I'll have another go....

[Signoholic]

Craig! You surprise me every day- you are evolving at a rapid rate mate, gud stuff. The Design in my eye is okay mate, all that is required is make the main copy bigger with a bold contour, possible cast parallel shadow with a trimmed oval to bottom complimenting the top of the sun, following the stripes that accent the name perfecto. Then just make the second copy script bigger in fire red, lift it up a little with a slight slant on a irregular shaped four sided triangle square shaped panel, maybe in the light green and I recon we got a little more Sign Craft influenced logo wizardry - from YOU sir! would be pretty easy to make into a one colour water mark graphic too. Well that’s my take :cool:

[Chunkie]

Thanks Pete - I am trying.

Not had another chance to look at this one - will do some over the weekend and get it sorted. Thanks for the help guys.

[Chunkie]

Binned the bells and whistles and tried simplistic.

Any comments please?

EDIT: Site won't let me upload at the minute - will try again later.

EDIT2: All there now.

[Chunkie]

Another possibility - just worried about the fade being a problem if he has embroidery done - he has mentioned that he might.

EDIT: Not loading again - will try later
EDIT2: All there now

[dave parr]

Craig,

This isn't intended as a critique, just thinking outloud. I think you have brought the design quite a way along, so here is a layout using most of your elements. Something more to run through the brain pan.

[paulp]

Dave you da man, that looks cool. I originaly said to change to a blended sky but your rendition with the larger text just does it.

[Chunkie]

It does look cool but all those fades are going to be a nightmare to cope with when he comes to emboidering it on his shirts. That's my biggest concern.

Wonder what it looks like in block colours - any chance of a peep Dave?

[dave parr]

OK . . . no gradients, then.

If you go this direction, it seems to me the tones used for the backgrounds need to compete less with the message. So, using these elements, I'd go a direction more like this.

Show us more of your ideas, developing high contrast, readability, conveying the message & aesthetics.

[Chunkie]

Thanks for that Dave - might just try to change the colour of text in my last one to try and keep with my own ideas - not being funny but I'd really like this one to be mine but with help rather than half hinching someone elses design.

Watch this space.

[dave parr]

Hey Craig, you've got the right attitude. I understand your wanting this to be yours, that's one reason I was using you design elements -- just offering options to address the possibilities. Most designs can be improved; I'm far from the last word in the game, who would want to be? There is always more to learn.

There are still problems in the layouts I posted. Although I like this brush casual script, it probably isn't the best choice to fit the need, considering it is very bouncy and busy by itself. Too much for the eye to pick up on quickly in this particular background. Any bigger and it begins to appear imbalanced.

I'd love to see what you finally decide on. I like your idea of working other colors with the font you used, I was hoping you would try that.

Have fun!

[Signoholic]

Cool Designs Dave, here's what I had in mind, although have lost the stripes grass attribute's, keeping in the sun & hoping the 2nd copy compliments the overall design, no fades just block colours. just another idea.

[Chunkie]

That's it Dave - everyone can learn something can't they?

Pete, I like the second copy style but the grass stripes were a customer essential so not remoable I'm afraid.

[Chunkie]

I think it's moved on thanks to you guys!

I'm really happy with it now and I think this is the one the customer will get offered.

Thanks for the help but I'm still open to criticism if you feel it fails anywhere.

[Wayne]

Just about there I reckon..Cool!
Wassit like with the pale green as a thin outline round them trees??

[Chunkie]

Thinking for vinyl Wayne, there is no where for the line to go. This would lay up easily as Dk Green with Lightgreen, black and blue/white layer next and then yellow ontop of black. Lining up an outline on the trees may be awkward when layering or break out of the dark green. Unless you see something I'm missing?

[Signoholic]

What do you recon to making the contour round the main copy 'STRIPES' a little bolder? Yeah I recon you have cracked it Craig - I sent you a pm by the way & sat in chat for half an hour haha.

[Chunkie]

SOrry Pete - doing a lot of photoshop work for photographers on a forum I frequent - seem to get a lot of requests for help these days - Might sell my services as Photoshop man soon, I'd make a bloody fortune.

Bold outline? Will try it next.

[dave parr]

Looking pretty good compared to the first, don't you think, Craig? Silly question, considering you posted your current satisfaction. Glad you are happier with it.

[Chunkie]

It's amazing compared to the first which looking back was just awful!

Thanks guys for the assistance.